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i agree with what nancy pelosi said. history improves itself. >> so based on history, this is about math and not ideology. the sense i get on the hill today, if you don't get the rate increase, you can forget everything else. >> we have seen in this country a decline in infrastructure in the last 30 years. that means everything from investment in community colleges, health care, highways and bridges, all of that. and we need these revenues particularly from upper income people. if the president would back down here or if we would lose this fight, it would say we're never going to increase taxes on the wealthy. >> if it's about the rates, that means john boehner's proposal is doa. >> his proposal is doa for a couple reasons. the math doesn't add up. >> he says he won't raise rates. he's getting heat on the hill today from people in his caucus about why did you put too much on the table? this tea party wing of the republican party over there in his caucus is telling him we'll give him the rates. >> it leaves us that john b
i agree with what nancy pelosi said. history improves itself. >> so based on history, this is about math and not ideology. the sense i get on the hill today, if you don't get the rate increase, you can forget everything else. >> we have seen in this country a decline in infrastructure in the last 30 years. that means everything from investment in community colleges, health care, highways and bridges, all of that. and we need these revenues particularly from upper income people. if...
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>> an urgent message from nancy pelosi. but it's casual friday for speaker boehner. >> this isn't a progress report bauds there's no progress to report. >> today's news, speaker boehner and president obama will be the only two at the table to make a deal. i'll ask emanuel cleaver if boehner can get it done. >>> 33 months of private sector job growth. now is the time to start spending on jobs. david cay johnston is here. >>> the filibuster is more than an embarrassing blunder. bernie sanders explains why. >>> the right to work in michigan has ignited a fire storm with workers. we'll have the latest on rick snider's race to the bottom. >>> and breaking news from the supreme court. there will be a decision on the constitutionality of same-sex marriage. law professor jonathan terly has all the details. >> thanks for watching. john boehner isn't having a lot of fun this holiday season. president obama continues his pressure campaign to pass the tax cuts. the president is also taking time to be fesive. john boehner doesn't sound
>> an urgent message from nancy pelosi. but it's casual friday for speaker boehner. >> this isn't a progress report bauds there's no progress to report. >> today's news, speaker boehner and president obama will be the only two at the table to make a deal. i'll ask emanuel cleaver if boehner can get it done. >>> 33 months of private sector job growth. now is the time to start spending on jobs. david cay johnston is here. >>> the filibuster is more than an...
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whether or not you like what nancy pelosi stands for, as a speaker of the house, nancy pelosi was good at her job. john boehner is not good at his job. we've ventured this as a hypothesis very early on in his speakership, i mean right from the beginning. it seemed like there might be something amiss, right? on the first day as speaker, he tried to have republicans pull off the stunt where they would read the whole constitution from the floor of the house. but even on day one, john boehner could not manage his own symbolic gesture. they skipped parts of the constitution. they skipped parts they did not like. and some parts they skipped because they were reading it out of a loose leaf binder and the pages stuck together. right then we should have known that was a bad sign. john boehner did not even succeed in getting all of his members sworn in when he took over as speaker. two new republican members of congress went to a reception and missed the swearing in. they apparently saw it happening on a tv screen that was playing at the reception, and they sort of tried to swear themselves in b
whether or not you like what nancy pelosi stands for, as a speaker of the house, nancy pelosi was good at her job. john boehner is not good at his job. we've ventured this as a hypothesis very early on in his speakership, i mean right from the beginning. it seemed like there might be something amiss, right? on the first day as speaker, he tried to have republicans pull off the stunt where they would read the whole constitution from the floor of the house. but even on day one, john boehner could...
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>> we'll talk exclusively with nancy pelosi about what can be done to control guns. and, of course, the looming fiscal cliff. speaker boehner today turns to his plan b. >> our plan b would protect american taxpayers who make $1 million or less and have all of their current rates extended. >> good day. i'm andrea mitchell live in washington. we here at nbc and msnbc and our entire family are relieved and joyful today that the escape of our friends and colleagues. chief foreign correspondent richard engel, producer gazi and john questra from kidnappers in syria where they had been held out of communication for five long days and nights. we first heard from richard last night and waited to hear that he and the team had crossed the border into tshgy. they had been blind fold and bound and only broke free after their candidate kidnappers came into contact with a rebel militia leading to a fierce firefight. here's richard engel describing the moments before their kidnapping on the "today" show this morning. >> we were driving in syria about five days ago in what we thought
>> we'll talk exclusively with nancy pelosi about what can be done to control guns. and, of course, the looming fiscal cliff. speaker boehner today turns to his plan b. >> our plan b would protect american taxpayers who make $1 million or less and have all of their current rates extended. >> good day. i'm andrea mitchell live in washington. we here at nbc and msnbc and our entire family are relieved and joyful today that the escape of our friends and colleagues. chief foreign...
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they'll say this was nancy pelosi's plan. this was chuck schumer's plan. they say they won't even support a tax cut for those making a million dollars or below. i think since so much of this is focused on the president and speaker boehner, it shouldn't be too much of a hiccup. it will get a lot of play in the kwfsh blockosphere. hopefully we'll see that on andrea mitchell in just 30 minutes. >> well done. >> it shouldn't be a sticking point in the long run because this is much more just a negotiating ploy. there's still real hope for a larger deal, and the last thing i'll throw in there, and i asked speaker boehner about this today, the tragedy in connecticut, do you really want to have an elongated partisan heated battle with that as the back drop, of the country still very much in mourning, and he said to me that americans shouldn't have any more stresses after that. if you look at how the talks have expedited, especially since friday, i do sincerely believe this tragedy in kuhn conhas sort of given these leaders an opportunity to say, you know what, we
they'll say this was nancy pelosi's plan. this was chuck schumer's plan. they say they won't even support a tax cut for those making a million dollars or below. i think since so much of this is focused on the president and speaker boehner, it shouldn't be too much of a hiccup. it will get a lot of play in the kwfsh blockosphere. hopefully we'll see that on andrea mitchell in just 30 minutes. >> well done. >> it shouldn't be a sticking point in the long run because this is much more...
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he said that before, and poor nancy pelosi has to go out and whip democrats. she will not do that this time. even if it passes the house, it will lose in the senate. and they're just doing this to cover their behinds. >> bob, it seems to me that speaker boehner wants to go to president obama and say see that? you can't raise taxes at any level on the country. what do you make of that? >> well, he is just flatly wrong. plan b is bs. it's never going to pass. joan is right. it's a wonderful republican idea. let's protect the people who make say, $998,000 a year. the first reality is by every poll, if we go off the fiscal cliff, they're going to be blamed. the second is the top rate tax rates are going up, whether it's $250,000 or $400,000. maybe people in the republican caucus don't get that. maybe we have to have a communication, earth to the republican caucus. but it's going to happen. it's either going to happen before or after we go off the fiscal cliff. >> so why -- bob, why is boehner just ignoring the rest of the president's offer here? >> because boehner
he said that before, and poor nancy pelosi has to go out and whip democrats. she will not do that this time. even if it passes the house, it will lose in the senate. and they're just doing this to cover their behinds. >> bob, it seems to me that speaker boehner wants to go to president obama and say see that? you can't raise taxes at any level on the country. what do you make of that? >> well, he is just flatly wrong. plan b is bs. it's never going to pass. joan is right. it's a...
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we have nancy pelosi, looks like her chief of staff with her. seems that may be a sign that the meeting has broken up. we also heard some reports that perhaps speaker boehner may have left the meeting. i want to do a quick question to both of you as we're sort of watching these folks depart. on the fiscal cliff, i'm going to just make it real simple and start with you dana and go to you, jonathan. deal or no deal? are we going to get a deal, dana? >> well, they're going to have to eventually. the question is -- >> maybe not. not with these guys. you never know. >> any prediction is perilous here. but it's always struck me, if it is going to be, it's going to be at the very last second or after we go over the cliff. >> jonathan, are we going to come out on the drive way and sing kumbaya? >> i doubt it given the video you just showed. that's not minority leader pelosi heading to the microphones in the driveway. it looks like she's on west executive drive trying to get the hell out of dodge. >> looking for her car. that's right. >> which could be a
we have nancy pelosi, looks like her chief of staff with her. seems that may be a sign that the meeting has broken up. we also heard some reports that perhaps speaker boehner may have left the meeting. i want to do a quick question to both of you as we're sort of watching these folks depart. on the fiscal cliff, i'm going to just make it real simple and start with you dana and go to you, jonathan. deal or no deal? are we going to get a deal, dana? >> well, they're going to have to...
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you know, i have a lot of faith in nancy pelosi, and if nancy pelosi doesn't think that the cpi indicator is that -- i'm not familiar with exactly what they were proposing. but if she says that's not going to harm social security then i'm inclined to give her the benefit of the doubt. but somebody does have to do something about medicare. and the way to do it is not to cut benefits. it's to change payment mechanisms to a system where you pay by the patient instead of by the procedure. that'll change everything. you can save a lot of money in medicare, and you don't take away anybody's benefits.
you know, i have a lot of faith in nancy pelosi, and if nancy pelosi doesn't think that the cpi indicator is that -- i'm not familiar with exactly what they were proposing. but if she says that's not going to harm social security then i'm inclined to give her the benefit of the doubt. but somebody does have to do something about medicare. and the way to do it is not to cut benefits. it's to change payment mechanisms to a system where you pay by the patient instead of by the procedure. that'll...
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you know, i have a lot of faith in nancy pelosi, and if nancy pelosi doesn't think that the cpi indicator is that -- i'm not familiar with exactly what they were proposing. but if she says that's not going to harm social security then i'm inclined to give her the benefit of the doubt. but somebody does have to do something about medicare. and the way to do it is not to cut benefits. it's to change payment mechanisms to a system where you pay by the patient instead of by the procedure. that'll change everything. you can save a lot of money in medicare, and you don't take away anybody's benefits. i'd like to see something like that on the table because that really is a game changer. >> well, we're going to find out if speaker boehner wants his job back or if he wants a deal. that's really where we are right now. >> that's about it. you're about right. i agree with you. >> can he go back and get you enough republican votes, mix them in with support of the president over on the democratic side, and come away with something that's going to save a lot of hurt for a lot of people in this country
you know, i have a lot of faith in nancy pelosi, and if nancy pelosi doesn't think that the cpi indicator is that -- i'm not familiar with exactly what they were proposing. but if she says that's not going to harm social security then i'm inclined to give her the benefit of the doubt. but somebody does have to do something about medicare. and the way to do it is not to cut benefits. it's to change payment mechanisms to a system where you pay by the patient instead of by the procedure. that'll...
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our exclusive conversation with nancy pelosi continuing next with those cliff talks, including her reaction to john boehner's plan b. this is andrea mitchell reports only on msnbc. [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso. in what world do potatoes, bacon and cheese add up to 100 calories? your world. ♪ [ whispers ] real bacon... creamy cheese... 100 calories... [ chef ] ma'am [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste ts soup. >>> this is a difficult time for americans. that's why we continue to have conversations with the white house. i continue to have hope that we can reach an agreement. it's not a time to put americans through more stress. >> the speaker today even though this latest tragedy -- even through the latest tragedy, there has been slow movement on negotiations between the speaker and the president. the speaker today saying that the latest offer isn't balanced. jay carney has just said that the president does support dianne feinstein's assault weapons ban, the rewritten ban that has expired. she was the original sponsor of that amendment back in 1994. speaking about the budget de
our exclusive conversation with nancy pelosi continuing next with those cliff talks, including her reaction to john boehner's plan b. this is andrea mitchell reports only on msnbc. [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso. in what world do potatoes, bacon and cheese add up to 100 calories? your world. ♪ [ whispers ] real bacon... creamy cheese... 100 calories... [ chef ] ma'am [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste ts soup. >>> this is a difficult time for americans. that's why we...
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speaker nancy pelosi helped create the oce as a solution. in just four years they have done more than 100 investigations of lawmakers raising serious questions about possible congressional misdeeds. in 37 of those investigations, the oce referred them on to the actual house ethics committee for further review, meaning that in those 37 cases, the oce found reason to believe that house ethics and sometimes federal laws were likely violated. so why exactly does congress want to kill it? well, actually, that is hard to say folks like these who have in the past voted to cut the oce budget or limit its powers refused to talk to us. for those who would talk, opinions were mixed. >> i think it's important there be some way for the public, for someone outside of congress to raise issues about the conduct of members of congress. one of the things that -- is it oce, oce has sent to the ethics committee was actually pretty flimsy. >> i supported it the first time, i'll support it again. >> i don't think it's working well. >> is there anything oce has do
speaker nancy pelosi helped create the oce as a solution. in just four years they have done more than 100 investigations of lawmakers raising serious questions about possible congressional misdeeds. in 37 of those investigations, the oce referred them on to the actual house ethics committee for further review, meaning that in those 37 cases, the oce found reason to believe that house ethics and sometimes federal laws were likely violated. so why exactly does congress want to kill it? well,...
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on the left, minority lead nancy pelosi who took speaker boehner to school yesterday, telling him to figure it out. moments ago, she called on the house gop to stay on the hill and keep working. >> here we are, 18 days from a possible fiscal cliff, hopefully not. 12 days until christmas. and here we are, once again, having a two-day work week, in the congress of the united states. you have to ask the question, why are we going home instead of working very hard to forge an agreement to avoid that fiscal cliff? >> and on the right, republicans who accused the president of wanting to take the plunge in order to achieve his objective number one. >> he'll probably eventually get his tax increases one way or another. he's going to get his wish. i believe we'll be raising taxes not just on the top earner. everyone is going to pay taxes next year in this country and i think that's what the president wants. >> and the center in the balance. the american economy, fed chair ben bernanke warning that the stalemate over the cliff is already inflicting damage. >> it's already affecting business in
on the left, minority lead nancy pelosi who took speaker boehner to school yesterday, telling him to figure it out. moments ago, she called on the house gop to stay on the hill and keep working. >> here we are, 18 days from a possible fiscal cliff, hopefully not. 12 days until christmas. and here we are, once again, having a two-day work week, in the congress of the united states. you have to ask the question, why are we going home instead of working very hard to forge an agreement to...
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them, and she was willing to take that charge. >> but, you know, i mean, sam, nancy pelosi gets it done. i mean, at the end of the day she has a set of brass knuckles, and her troops fall in line. i think we have -- there's a lot of arm change prognostication of john boehner and how in danger he is of his speakership. luke will say that he is not. i'll bring you in a second, luke. democrats end up playing ball even when there are pills in there that are icky for them to swallow. >> look, if boehner doesn't get it done tonight, is he in real trouble. if he does, okay. it's funny to me. you take away that chart we looked at earlier, and we're just a panel talking about the plot of general hospital. we don't know exactly why the nurse did that and turned on the weather machine or whatever it is. >> who is the nurse? >> that's a good question. >> oh, blacky. >> there is a sense that the republican party would not be doing all of this if they could avoid it, right? to meagan's point, if you look at the polling on this, 69% of the public disapproves of the way republicans are handling this. 1
them, and she was willing to take that charge. >> but, you know, i mean, sam, nancy pelosi gets it done. i mean, at the end of the day she has a set of brass knuckles, and her troops fall in line. i think we have -- there's a lot of arm change prognostication of john boehner and how in danger he is of his speakership. luke will say that he is not. i'll bring you in a second, luke. democrats end up playing ball even when there are pills in there that are icky for them to swallow. >>...
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nancy pelosi will have a news conference. we'll bring that live. >>> newtown and the nation paused earlier today remembering the 26 souls who were lost exactly one week ago. president obama and his top advisors join the remembrance in the oval office. the nra responded shrugging off protesters today. the gun lobby's answer? more guns. armed guards in our schools. >> the only way to stop a monster from killing our kids is to be personally involved and invested in a plan of absolute protection. the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. >> and, finally, the nation says aloha to senator daniel inouye. >> he was a wise, a good man. the reason he could be courageous without being sanctimonious. the reason he could be so generous and old-fashionedly gallant without seeming pompous, the reason he could be friends across the aisle and find principled compromise without sacrificing principle is because that is who he was. this moving and personal tribute from president obama. >> and who taught so many of
nancy pelosi will have a news conference. we'll bring that live. >>> newtown and the nation paused earlier today remembering the 26 souls who were lost exactly one week ago. president obama and his top advisors join the remembrance in the oval office. the nra responded shrugging off protesters today. the gun lobby's answer? more guns. armed guards in our schools. >> the only way to stop a monster from killing our kids is to be personally involved and invested in a plan of...
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president, there in the middle, democrats nancy pelosi and harry reid. republicans mitch mcconnell and john boehner. those four members of congress are expected to make the drive from the capital, which you see on the right, down pennsylvania avenue, to the white house, there on the left. and we expect them to enter through a side door on the west side of the mansion. that's the entrance right there. and they'll meet with the president. in the oval office. beginning, we're told, at 3:00 p.m., less than one hour from now. and just four days ahead of the so-called fiscal cliff. so a very big moment in the nation's capital. and to walk us through what might happen we turn to jessica yellin, a chief white house correspondent. jessica, we said up front, it is a long shot, give us a best case scenario. >> reporter: the best case scenario would be that all the leaders walk out of this meeting and say they have a deal. the two senators say they can bring it to a vote, and none of their members will filibuster it. house speaker john boehner says he will bring it
president, there in the middle, democrats nancy pelosi and harry reid. republicans mitch mcconnell and john boehner. those four members of congress are expected to make the drive from the capital, which you see on the right, down pennsylvania avenue, to the white house, there on the left. and we expect them to enter through a side door on the west side of the mansion. that's the entrance right there. and they'll meet with the president. in the oval office. beginning, we're told, at 3:00 p.m.,...
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pelosi today didn't seem too cool toward it at all. where do you think this stands with democrats right now, this social security idea? >> well, don't like it for the reasons that you say, and it is a regressive way of cutting benefits. you know, social security is also not the biggest budget buster. it really is medicare is the biggest long-term threat. but i think democrats hate a chain cpi adjustment less than they hate raising the retirement age for medicare which was a trial balloon we saw and provoked an angry reaction from the left. they may dislike this a little less than they dislike the talk about the retirement age for medicare. you make a good point. there's been so much focus i think appropriately on whether the republican party is capable of accepting higher tax rates and whether the tea party and the junior members of the house are going to stand their ground and kind of shoot down anything boehner proposes on that front, but you have to keep in mind, obama has got to sell it to democrats as well. you can't do this witho
pelosi today didn't seem too cool toward it at all. where do you think this stands with democrats right now, this social security idea? >> well, don't like it for the reasons that you say, and it is a regressive way of cutting benefits. you know, social security is also not the biggest budget buster. it really is medicare is the biggest long-term threat. but i think democrats hate a chain cpi adjustment less than they hate raising the retirement age for medicare which was a trial balloon...
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. >> nancy pelosi is trying to take care of that. she plans to bring a discharge petition to the floor of the house tomorrow. this would force republicans to openly accept or reject the middle class tax cuts. did this influence the republicans desire to release a plan? do you think this conversation in recent days about this technique that she's going to put on the floor, do you think that prompted this deal today? >> if you call this deal a plan. there's nothing here, ed. this is exactly what romney was touting. they don't want to raise taxes on the rich. the top 2% are held basically sacresect. >> what about pelosi's move? >> they are going to be vulnerable. the back story here is not only 2012 and the election of 2012. the back story is 2014. if republicans continue to stick to being the shoes for the wealthy in this country and maintaining a war on the middle class, america is going to vote them out of office. we're going to have a republican party that not only is a minority party, but is a minority party for years. >> robert, g
. >> nancy pelosi is trying to take care of that. she plans to bring a discharge petition to the floor of the house tomorrow. this would force republicans to openly accept or reject the middle class tax cuts. did this influence the republicans desire to release a plan? do you think this conversation in recent days about this technique that she's going to put on the floor, do you think that prompted this deal today? >> if you call this deal a plan. there's nothing here, ed. this is...
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house minority leader nancy pelosi wants to ban those high-capacity magazine clips. and mayor booker who was with them against gun violence. wants to close the loopholes. he appeared with rachel maddow last night. >> criminals should not be able to buy guns. and even at higher levels when you think about the reality if you're a suspected terrorist in america, you can go to the secondary gun market and buy a weapon and conduct the kind of terrorism we saw in mumbai which was done with automatic and semiautomatic weapons. >> the fabric of gun culture is woven into american's lives. how do we put a genie back in a bottle when it comes to modern-day wednesday that our forefathers could never have imagined? >> we cannot put the genie back in the bottle. we can tamper with rules. nobody in washington, not president obama, not senator feinstein is going to confiscate the guns throughout. anyone who is implying otherwise is kidding themselves. >> americans love to drive, they wouldn't have anything else but huge cars. didn't matter about safety, they said. you're not going t
house minority leader nancy pelosi wants to ban those high-capacity magazine clips. and mayor booker who was with them against gun violence. wants to close the loopholes. he appeared with rachel maddow last night. >> criminals should not be able to buy guns. and even at higher levels when you think about the reality if you're a suspected terrorist in america, you can go to the secondary gun market and buy a weapon and conduct the kind of terrorism we saw in mumbai which was done with...
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the speaker lost his right, nancy pelosi lost her left, and they come together here. that's doable, yes? >> i think so. i think there has to be a lot of people, republicans, that wish they would have taken the deal seeing how the election came out that taking the deal in the summer of 2011 where president obama reluctantly indicated that he would be for changing the cost of living formula for social security, raising the retirement age very slowly for medicare, and because those things are going to be harder to get now for democrats, because the left has mobilized, liberal groups are very active. but i think the democrats recognize the entitlement spending has to be curved. >> they don't want to change it structurally. they don't want to block medicare, or voucherize medicare, or privatize social security. so if you those things, you v to make the armath work. >> let me tell you where the republicans are in their thinking. i think republicans are saying the president will probably get his way on his tax increases on the rich. let's say he gets that, that raises maybe
the speaker lost his right, nancy pelosi lost her left, and they come together here. that's doable, yes? >> i think so. i think there has to be a lot of people, republicans, that wish they would have taken the deal seeing how the election came out that taking the deal in the summer of 2011 where president obama reluctantly indicated that he would be for changing the cost of living formula for social security, raising the retirement age very slowly for medicare, and because those things...
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. >> while the president was turning up the public pressure on the road, nancy pelosi plaid a card of her own. she gave republicans until next tuesday to vote on tax cuts for the middle class. >> if the bill, if there's no announcement of scheduling of the middle income tax cut, which by the way has tremendous support in the republican caucus, i think we would get 100% vote on it if it came to the floor. if it is not scheduled, then on tuesday we will be introducing a discharge petition, which you know if we get 208 signatures would bring the bill automatically to the floor. >> this is getting good. a discharge petition is a way to bring the bill to the floor for consideration without house leadership. circumventing john boehner. feingold was kick started by a discharge petition. gun legislation has also been passed thanks to discharge petitions. pelosi found a way to get republicans on the record whether they like it or not. next week they will have to take a stand. it's no wonder republicans are freak out. >> this is not a game. we're not interested in playing. we're interested in t
. >> while the president was turning up the public pressure on the road, nancy pelosi plaid a card of her own. she gave republicans until next tuesday to vote on tax cuts for the middle class. >> if the bill, if there's no announcement of scheduling of the middle income tax cut, which by the way has tremendous support in the republican caucus, i think we would get 100% vote on it if it came to the floor. if it is not scheduled, then on tuesday we will be introducing a discharge...
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by the way, i would give some advice to speaker boehner, he needs to talk to nancy pelosi. when nancy pelosi was speaker, she found a way even with maximum republican opposition to bring her diverse caucus. that is a caucus with diverse views together to get things done like the affordable care act. like dodd frank. she got it done. >> that's great advice, and we hope he listens. >> i hope so. >> thank you so much, my friend. >> my pleasure. >>> let's turn to ryan grim. mr. grim, the jobless are really the only segment of the population who get an immediate hit if we go over the fiscal cliff. doesn't this strike even what appears to be heartless politicians that the people most vulnerable are working class and working poor and middle class people who will get stiffed by this? >> yeah, the jobless have been getting pushed around by congress for years now, you know, ever since the economic crisis. and they implemented some extended emergency benefits they've been getting told that if they give them unemployment it will make them lazy and they will not look for jobs. states ha
by the way, i would give some advice to speaker boehner, he needs to talk to nancy pelosi. when nancy pelosi was speaker, she found a way even with maximum republican opposition to bring her diverse caucus. that is a caucus with diverse views together to get things done like the affordable care act. like dodd frank. she got it done. >> that's great advice, and we hope he listens. >> i hope so. >> thank you so much, my friend. >> my pleasure. >>> let's turn to...
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and specifically would any speaker, whether it's john boehner, nancy pelosi or anybody else, allow a bill to pass like this, especially one that violates four republican party doctrine that would raise taxes, would they allow it to -- and the answer to that is probably not. democrats have alleged for week now what john bain ser doing is waiting until the gavel is safely in his hands for the next congress. that happens on january 3rd, when they formally elect a speaker. that's one theory, but probably the thing that make the most sense is the fact that then it becomes a vote to cut taxes for 98% of americans, instead of allowing them to rise for 1% or 2%. that is something logically the republicans would probably or more likely go along with, though at this point who knows where we'll end up with on this thing. january 3rd is the new congress. in the days after that, that's the inertia it scenario. >> gentlemen, thanks so that. i appreciate it. >>> we want to bring in today's panel s perry bacon, democratic strategy margie omero, and chip saltzmann. i want to talk about with what stev
and specifically would any speaker, whether it's john boehner, nancy pelosi or anybody else, allow a bill to pass like this, especially one that violates four republican party doctrine that would raise taxes, would they allow it to -- and the answer to that is probably not. democrats have alleged for week now what john bain ser doing is waiting until the gavel is safely in his hands for the next congress. that happens on january 3rd, when they formally elect a speaker. that's one theory, but...
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nancy pelosi is not hearing hearsay out of the a.p. story. she says we are with the president. if social security is involved, it won't be, everything that she has been led to believe so far does not cape social security. >> cenk: you think the democrats are going to tell president obama no, we're not going to cut social security. >> democrats in the house are not going to matter. >> democrats overall. >> cenk: democrats will be to the president bow their head say yes yes you're such a great president we love you. let's cut it from the poor and middle class and give it to the rich. >> safe the poor and middle class. if you're going with thatory the a.p. ran, they said there are exemptions for the poor and some for the middle class. they are saying these cost of living exemptions which will not go up exempt the poor and middle class. >> cenk: it might exempt some of the poor. in fact, the chained c.p.i. is the most regressive way of cutting social security. it hits the poor and middle class worse than any other way. >> every entitlement you cut hits the poor and middle class wor
nancy pelosi is not hearing hearsay out of the a.p. story. she says we are with the president. if social security is involved, it won't be, everything that she has been led to believe so far does not cape social security. >> cenk: you think the democrats are going to tell president obama no, we're not going to cut social security. >> democrats in the house are not going to matter. >> democrats overall. >> cenk: democrats will be to the president bow their head say yes...
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if we can figure this out, you know that john boehner and nancy pelosi and the wimps in the chambers are trying to figure it out. the right combination of the income threshold for tax increases with entitlement cuts, we haven't found it. the theory that republicans only want to pass something with the majority, that worked for haster when he was speaker. it's hard to see what kind of tax increase will get a majority of republicans and bring along enough democrats. boehner couldn't pass a million dollar tax increase. why do we think he can get something out of the house if they lower it to 400,000 or 500,000. we are skeptical that they can come together with the solution in the next five or six days. >> marty, we spent a lot of time talking about the house. what is mitch mcconnell thinking in the senate? >> he is a fascinating part of this. first of all, he is probably going to vote against any deal that raises taxes. whether he actively whips against it or lets it go, there is a number of senate republicans who seem open to upper income tax increases. some of the new england moderate
if we can figure this out, you know that john boehner and nancy pelosi and the wimps in the chambers are trying to figure it out. the right combination of the income threshold for tax increases with entitlement cuts, we haven't found it. the theory that republicans only want to pass something with the majority, that worked for haster when he was speaker. it's hard to see what kind of tax increase will get a majority of republicans and bring along enough democrats. boehner couldn't pass a...
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. >> but nancy pelosi sees an advantage. >> they're willing to raise wait rates, now is the question, 218 republicans, that is what it takes to pass the bill, are 218 republicans ready to raise rates? we'll find out soon. >> joining me now, sam stein, contributor, and ezra klein, analyst, what is your assessment of the state of play and where the offers stand at this point? >> breaking down a little bit. i mean, they're close now. and more to the point, they have kind of agreed on an underlying ratio. so both sides, republicans and democrats agree that in the negotiations's they're looking to get one to one, one to one tax increases and spending, the fight is what do you count in that one to one? john boehner says the you're getting the one, john boehner says you have about $800 billion, he is not including interest payments. we have talked about this a lot on the show, so much of the fiscal cliff is about who has leverage if they don't come to a deal. and so far, the president usually has because either all the tax cuts expire or a lot of republicans have said we'll just pass the sen
. >> but nancy pelosi sees an advantage. >> they're willing to raise wait rates, now is the question, 218 republicans, that is what it takes to pass the bill, are 218 republicans ready to raise rates? we'll find out soon. >> joining me now, sam stein, contributor, and ezra klein, analyst, what is your assessment of the state of play and where the offers stand at this point? >> breaking down a little bit. i mean, they're close now. and more to the point, they have kind of...